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Falwell Fallout
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It has struck me as interesting that there are a few folks out there insisting that we take a turn-the-other-cheek, compassionate view of Jerry Falwell's death. Compassion for a man who indirectly blamed me (as a gay man) for 9/11. Compassion for a man who advocated the ritualistic segregation and elimination all all gay people, everywhere.

I feel no compassion for Jerry Falwell's "soul," if indeed he had one. There isn't room enough in LJ's bandwidth to list all the racist, homophobic, misogynistic, xenophobic bile that this horrible man vomited into the public discourse over the years. Indeed, Jerry Falwell is one of the many reasons I no longer really identify myself as a Christian. Christianity, or what passes for it these days, has nothing to do with Christ anymore--and Falwell was in the vanguard redefining it for the worse.

I consider Falwell's death a victory for humankind as a whole. No longer will we have to deal with his poisonous personality. It is true, he has left a horrible legacy, and goodness knows there are plenty more like him to fill the void he left behind. But in all honesty, I felt uplifted and nearly euphoric when I heard the news yesterday. It is a small victory, but the human race now has that much more of a fraction of a chance to be decent to one another with him gone.

In short, react to and deal with Falwell's death as you will. I have no intention to dictate to people how they should feel; however, I would ask the same respect be given to me. And I honestly feel the planet earth is better off with Jerry Falwell no longer polluting it.

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F him. I am glad he is dead. I wouldn't go out of my way to spit on his grave. So I'm not a bigger man for turning the other cheek. I smiled when I learned he kicked and I continue to do so.

I agree. I have no problem with how my reaction to an awful person's death might somehow reflect on me.

Hmmmmm... I bet you would be agree with this journal:
http://mapdark.livejournal.com/301458.html

If one's so terrible person and eventually dead, nothing worth to mention what's good on him, because most of the deed were mostly bad.

Oh well, I think no need to bash the horrible dead man, but cheering over his death won't make us different with him. Stay cool, and ignore it. Cheer up in your heart.

My heart is fine. In fact, it is uplifted from the news.

When we thought he was dead back in 2005 and you posted as such, I said I wouldn't sink to his level. You came back with something akin to showing no sympathy for the devil or something like, I don't remember specifically.

This time around, I'm forced to agree with the clamouring masses: he would have had no kind words for me, so I'll make the reverse true.

As can easily be seen by bouncing around LJ a little bit, the reactions to his death are highly varied. And that's fine. Different strokes for different folks, and all that.

I am just expressing with bare and blatant honesty how I feel about it.

I feel like you miss the point of turning the other cheek. :)
Resisting the urge to cheer over his death, no matter how glad you may be, that's what makes you a better person than him. He died because he was old, that's not a win for our side.

By not pandering the already hate filled crowd, by not rejoicing and dancing in the street and laughing with glee, you win.

Falwell would expect us to be thrilled about this. In his eyes, the greatest injustice one could do to Falwell would be to treat him with the respect and dignity that we would to one of our own.

I think that's the point people are trying to make.

Don't care. I am being honest with my feelings, and I am delighted the hypocritical windbag is now in hell.

Part of the problem I have with that is that it's basically asking me, a non-Christian, to do the "Christian" thing. I don't *have* anyone to answer to, and pretending to respect him now that he's dead is at the very least intellectually dishonest.

The greatest justice one can do is to ensure that he's remembered for exactly what he was, and not allow him to be sainted in death, in the name of not speaking ill of the dead.

To be sure (and I risk running afoul of Godwin's Law here, but I must make the point) his crimes were not on the same order as those of Stalin or Hitler... but you wouldn't ask me to speak kindly of them, would you?

He blamed me as a gay, a liberal and a non-Christian for 9/11. Death does not earn him a free pass for that. My only regret is that as an Atheist, I have no Hell to wish he was in. If anything, the absolute nothingness he passed into is a *far* more merciful fate than what he deserved.

Again, you people miss the point. I never said speak kindly of him. I just said don't be a dick about all this. Hence turning the other cheek. :)

If you're not Christian, fine, it doesn't mean you throw out decency, but Lou claims to be, or at once was a Christian.

We're hypocrites when we act like this, and it's stupid that we do so by calling him a hypocrite.

I see nothing wrong in calling a spade a spade. He was a homophobe, a racist, a bigot, and a hypocrite, and I cannot in good conscience stand by and allow him to be posthumously sainted only because he's dead, allowed by silence in the name of "being nice".

You call it being a dick, I call it talking honestly about his legacy. He needs to be remembered for what he was, and I repeat: a homophobe, a racist, a bigot and a hypocrite. I see nothing to be nice *about*.

Thanks for calling me a dick and a hypocrite. You have a long history of going out of your way to rub people the wrong way, so...consider your comments duly ignored, as I am sure you are ignoring mine.

By the way, adding a smiley to the end of an insulting sentence makes it no less insulting.

I agree completely with you but I will save the cheers for when Rev. Phelps finally passes through the sooty black iron gates of hell. I'd even stand at his funeral cheering "Go, Fred, Go!"

It's unfathomable how many thousands of lives have been negatively impacted by this man's preaching, for simply being born a certain way. The best eulogy to Falwell has to be Rude Pundit's, though Tinky Winky's is pretty good too.

"In my age, we laughed at queers, fairies, and anyone who was thought to be a homosexual. It was a hideous thing, and no one talked about it, much less ever confessed to being a homosexual... I believe the United States will be destroyed if we permit homosexuality as an alternative lifestyle."


I for one plan to be in Topeka, Kansas, picketing his funeral, carrying a sign that reads "God Hates Bigots" when Phelps finally assumes ambient temperature.

The Rude Pundit's eulogy is spot-on. I couldn't say it better myself!

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